Even on January 26 — a national holiday — you are touring. How rarely does a day off come by?
I get day-offs... At times, I stay back for a day in a city I'm touring. That gives me time.
How do you spend an off-day at home?
I wake up early, do my own things and then, sit for riyaaz. Then, I go to the kitchen, do things, look out for my grandchildren, do things for them... Meri bahu bahut achhi hai, we are like friends. If I don't have outside work, I spend a lot of time doing riyaaz.
Workwise, last year was special. After saying no to films for long, you finally okayed one...
You should only do things which you are meant to do. I always thought I should concentrate on singing. Aur kya hai, life jo hai, woh filmstars ka bahut chhota hai, singers ka bahut lamba hai. Aur mujhe khud ko lagta tha ki main itni sundar nahin hoon ki main filmon mein kaam karoon. Toh iss liye maine kabhi films ki taraf dekha bhi nahin, bola bhi nahi kisi ko. Here, what happened was the film's producer and Anand, my younger son, sat me down one night and narrated the story. It was around 1 am and I was back from a show. They said, 'Yeh story hai suno'. Maine suni and mujhe bahut achha laga. The film is about a mother and that made me very emotional. They said, 'Maee ke naam se story hai'. For long, I kept saying no. Bahut din chalta raha... Phir meri beti, Varsha jab thi, ussne kaha tum toh actor ke beti ho. Mere pitaji actor thay aur singer bhi thay. Varsha ne kaha, 'Tumhare mein dono hi hai, tum gaana jo gaati ho uss mein bhi acting hi hai. Dekho pandra din tak, nahin hoga toh chhor dena.' Maine bola yeh thik hai, chhor dena achha hai. Then, when we started, I found it easy. Gaane se bahut asaan hai. Gaana bahut mushkil hai. Gaane ke liye bahut kuchh chhor na padta hai, bahut kuchh dhyan mein rakhna padta hai. In the film, if you look like the character you are given, then it's not that difficult.
What's your role like?
Grandmother ka role hai. I play a mother and a grandmother. I am not telling you the story, but there's a lot to learn. You'll get to know the importance of daughters — ladkiyan kitni mahatwapoorna hai jivan mein. Aj log bolte hai hamein ladka chahiye, ladka chahiye. Ladka kuchh nahin karta hai. Maa se pyaar ladki hi karti hai, ghar chhor jaane ke baad uss ka sara dhyaan maa pe hi rehta hai. Apne ghar ke taraf rehta hai. Ladki ka role bahut bada hai jeevan mein...
What sort of a bond did you share with your mother?
Bahut achhi thi, bahut maarti thi. Maine agar Anand ko ek mara, meri maa ne mujhe do maari. As a youngster, it was different. I got married when I was very young (at 16). Till then, it was good. Chhalaangein marna, gaate rehna... Then, when I got married, she was very upset. Kyunki mere aadmi (Ganpatrao Bhosle) ko sau rupaye milta tha uss zamane mein, ghar chalana bahut mushkil hota tha. Bahut takleef uthayi. Karte karte jab usne dekha teen bachhe hai — Anand toh maa ke ghar mein hua — toh usne mujhe samjhaya. She might have been old-fashioned, but she was modern in her thinking. She taught me the importance of freedom. She would go to the market, where there would be birds on sale. With her little money, she would buy them, take them to Pawai Lake and set them free. She would tell me, 'Tum free hone ka faida uthao.... Tumhe koi nahin bolega khana kyun diya, kapda kyun nahi diya, tum free ho'. At the same time, she got us initiated into puja path. She never stopped me from singing. Woh bolte they, 'Gaana koi paap nahin hai, dance karna koi paap nahin hai. Paap jo hai woh doosre hai, jo log karte hai, kisi ka ghar todna... Tum to paap nahin kar rahi ho na... mann mein shuddh ho toh kuchh bhi kar sakti ho'.
And as a mother, what kind of a relationship do you share with your children?
They are very close, but when they were young, I had no time. I would spend the whole day at the recording studio, when I would be back, they would be asleep. On Sundays, I would take them out for a movie — morning show — and treat them to good food. But I didn't do much to train them. Padai meri zyada nahin hui hai, so woh sab nahin kar saki jo aaj-kal ki maaye karti hai. They, however, took immense interest in music. My brother, my sisters are all from the music industry. There was a music room at home, where songs would be played all day. Anand, Varsha... they grew up in that environment. Music leaves a positive impact on people, that's what happened to my kids. On their part, they had no demands on me; they were quiet and would keep to themselves. They would never tell me, 'Tum kyun jati ho, gaana chhor do...' I would at times tell them, 'Dekho aur kuchh nahin hai mere paas, sirf gaana hai, gaana nahin gayoongi toh ghar kaise chalega?' Every year, for a month, I would take Anand and Varsha to Kashmir during their holiday. Hemant (elder son) was in boarding school. That time, competition wasn't fierce and kids had the liberty to enjoy weekends. Aur sach mein mujhe dhyan bhi nahin hota tha. Life bada achha tareeke se nikal gaya. I wanted to spend more time with my kids, but couldn't. But the time I've given them, they'll never forget.
SD Burman's house is lying barren on Southend Park... Ever thought of turning it into a museum?
Bech diya usko. Burman sahab ne khud becha usko. I remember a very funny incident. Once people from the Tripura Rajvadi had come down. There was a very old man. Bahut mazeedar thay.... Unko Pancham ke mother se milna tha, woh toh behosh hi thi. When I opened the door and said, 'Nomoshkar', he asked, 'Tumi ke'? (Who are you?) Ami bollam je ami Asha (I said I'm Asha). He asked, 'Asha ke'? (Who's Asha?) I said, 'Asha Bhonsle'.... Then he laughed and said, 'I am a big fan of yours'...
A great composer and a great singer coming together must have had its share of ego clashes...
Pancham would compose lovely tunes and make me hear them. He would ask, 'Kaisa lag raha hai?' Kabhi kabhi main bol deti thi yeh toh achha nain hai. He would ask, 'Kya achha nahin hai?'. Main bolti thi, yeh nahin achha lag raha hai, iss ka sur achha nahin lag raha hai. He would be taken aback, phir phat se change kar deta tha. Ek gaane mein mera uss ke saath bahut jhagda hua tha.... Mere saame wali khidki mein. I said, mere ko nahin pasand yeh gaana. He asked, 'Kyun nahin pasand?. Itna achha toh chala hai'. Maine kaha do gaane tera mere ko pasand nahin, ek yeh aur doosra, Tumne mujhe dekha. Sona re sona mein tum lagte ho, iss gaane mein tum nahin dikhai dete ho. Ekdin jhagda hua saradin, phir maan gaya. Bola Aja aja jaisa hai waisa nahin hai.
Are you clued into current Bollywood? After the Delhi gangrape incident, among the things that came under the scanner was also shoddy lyrics...
(Looks at the swimming pool and says) Agar aap lyrics ki baat karenge toh main yahin pe jump kar doongi. Bade gande bol hai... Some are still audible, but most aren't. There was a film — Jab We Met. I loved the song rendered by Ustad Rashid Ali Khan. Achhe gaane aate hai toh hum pasand karte hai, par jo baki ke item songs bola jata hai woh toh bahut kharab hai... Koi bhi... Chipka do photo.... Kya hai?
What do you do when you are not singing?
I have a restaurant chain. There are 10, but I haven't opened any in India, there's no space. Restaurants should be big; they should give out the dhaba feel. I've included Pancham's famous recipes — chingri machher cutlet, sorse maach, moong dal — in the menu. Whatever Pancham taught me is all there. Woh achha khana banata tha. The idea started with my kids. They would often eat out and come back to say, 'Aunty ke ghar ka khana achha hai'; mujhe bahoot cheed aati thi. Mujhe laga itna achha khilao ki aunty ki yaad nahin aaye koi.
Last year, there were speculations about Lata Mangeshkar's professional relationship with Mohd. Rafi and personal equations with Bhupen Hazarika. How did the family handle all that?
Do I tell you the truth? I'm mostly not clued in. Didi ka jahaan tak sawal hai, woh kisi baat ka jawab deti nahin. Aap ko jo samajhna hai samjho. Aur ghar mein hum yeh saari baatein discuss nahin karte hai. Kisne likha, kyun likha, Mohd. Rafi, uss ka beta, abhi kaise jaag pada maloom nahin itne saal ke baad, main nahin yeh sab cheeze janti.
At 80, is there anything still left to achieve?
You can't get all that you want. You might think, I'll do this tomorrow, but you never know when God intervenes. Aap chalte jaiye, samne jo hai bas usko face kariye, mehnaat kijiye bas. I do my riyaaz and am looking forward to singing many more songs. Everytime I hit a low, I take to riyaaz more seriously. People ask God for things, I ask the same from sur.
Any regrets?
Sab diya uss ne. Regret yeh hai ki usske haath mein ek hi badi cheez hai — maut. Koi chala gaya, main ussko jaga nahin sakti.
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