A woman is not an object: Anup Soni

Written By Unknown on Kamis, 26 September 2013 | 21.44

After 'Crime Patrol' aired an episode on the Nirbhaya gang-rape case recently, the show's host Anup Soni talks about the need to highlight such cases on television and the impact it has on the audience. The idea, he says, is to spread awareness about the laws, and to sensitize people and the police about the right way to deal with women and issues pertaining to them.

On taking up real cases with a message
We choose a case where we want to tell something to people and spread awareness about it. We don't pick a case saying, "Oh my God, this is an interesting case. The audience would be interested in knowing about it."

A few days back, we took a case where a priest donated his kidney to a stranger. Now, if you see, there's nothing sensational about the case. People complained saying, "Your show's a crime show and you have shown a story where there's no crime."

Jab hum buri cheez ko dekh ke yeh seekhte hain ki bura kaam nahi karna chahiye, to kya hum acche kaam to dekh ke yeh nahi seekh sakte, ki humein bhi accha kaam karna chahiye. If you remember, we had called the real priest and the recipient of the kidney on the show. With Crime Patrol, we also try to make people aware about certain laws. Do you know that there is no such thing as jurisdiction now? Agar kisi ladki ke saath koi haadsa hua hai, woh ABCD area mein hua ho, aur aap GH area mein jaake usse register karayenge, then the police have to register an FIR. Later the police can transfer the case to the concerned area. Nobody can say, "This doesn't come under my jurisdiction." Like Asaram Bapu's case, the incident happened somewhere else and it was registered somewhere else.

On the Nirbhaya case
The Nirbhaya case shook the nation's consciousness. Aap sochiye, kya Nirbhaya case se pehle aur rape cases nahi huye hain, lekin logon ka patience kha-tam ho gaya tha. Unhe lagne laga tha ki yeh toh mazaak hai yaar, ki Dilli jaise shehar mein raat ko 9 baje aap itna brutal crime kar sakte hain. People got affected by the brutality of the crime and came out on to the streets to demand justice for Nirbhaya.

On the reaction to the verdict
I would not like to pass a statement like, "Yeh bahut accha hua ki unhe death sentence mila". But in a case like this, many things need to be considered. If you talk about it in legal terms, the girl died. So that makes the crime even bigger. Main yeh nahi kehna chah raha hoon ki aapne death sentence de diya to aap logon ko dara denge lekin kahin na kahin yeh baat ek insaan ke dimaag mein jaana bahut zaruri hai ki mujhe sazaa hogi agar main galat kaam karunga. A criminal should be scared of the consequences of a crime.

On the male mentality
I want to write a book on, "It's all about mentality". You must have read a whole lot of books on self-confidence and attitude. Attitude comes with mentality. I am seriously thinking about writing a book that talks about how your mentality influences the way you do things. It's not about a city — Mumbai safe hai, unsafe hai, ya Dilli safe hai, ya Baroda safe hai. It's all about people and their thinking process. Mothers should teach their sons how it is to be a woman. We have quoted a line from a famous American women's rights activist on the show, "Betiyon ko toh logon ne beton ki tarah bada karne ka sochna shuru kar diya hai par bahut kam log hai jo beton ko betiyon ki tarah bada karne ka sochte hain." Point yeh hai ki aapke beton ko pata hona chahiye ki ek aurat hona kya hota hai. It is essential to make people sensitive towards women. Boys should be taught that a woman is not a material or an object.

On police sensitization
It is very easy to blame the police or administration. Everyone has a role to play. Administration has a role to play. Police has a role to play. I think everybody should play their roles honestly. Ab jaise police ka jahaan tak sawaal his, woh log apna kaam karte hain, bahut mehnat karte hain. I think as far as handling rape cases is concerned, police waalon ko training dena zaruri hai. Every police officer has a certain perspective which has been shaped by his upbringing. Jab ek policewaale ke paas ek ladki jaati hai aur kehti hai ki mera rape ho gaya, main wahaan pub mein gayi thi, there are chances that a police officer might think, "You invited it upon yourself because you went to the pub. It's your fault." I think we need to make police personnel sensitive towards these kinds of cases.

After this case, the Delhi Police has introduced sensitization sessions. If police officers are provided training on how to interact with victims of such cases, I think the credibility and confidence of police will improve. But after the Nirbhaya case, some changes have been observed in Delhi Police's functioning. It will take time but things could improve.


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